PARADISE LOST INTERVIEW - MOSCOW PROMO TOUR

PARADISE LOST

Right on, lads. Now we are actually talking some serious business, you know what I am saying. It's not that I'm trying to sound pompous or anything, or brag about it, you know, but I mean this is actually our very first official exclusive interview with anyone, and I mean note the counterparts for this one. Paradise Lost - the legendary, the uncompromising, the band that had caused just a bit less controversy in the business than Metallica had. Starting out as a cult death/doom-metal band over a decade ago, releasing the album that is still considered the representation of the genre, and then changing the style altogether. Risking to lose a huge and loyal fan-base just for the kicks of doing something different. These guys have seen everything. Ladies and gentlemen, Greg and Nick of Paradise Lost speak exclusively to MetalKings.ru in the course of their promo tour with the newly recorded 'Believe in Nothing'

Roman: OK. As far as I understand this is a promo tour that you make in the wake of the new album and first questions will be about the record. We have heard it but we don't know a lot of background information: where was it recorded, who was the producer?

Greg: The producer was the guy called John Fryer who's previously worked with Nine Inch Nails and a lot of other people I don't know. It took about a year to write a record. The majority of it was done in London. Lots of different studios, I can't really remember them all, we just went to lots of different studios. It was mixed in Horus Sound studios in Hannover by a guy called Gerhard Woelfle, who has previously worked with Guano Apes and Rammstein. And that's it really.

Roman: Why so many studios?

Greg: Well, no idea (a bit laughing at Nick)

Roman: Is it more convenient to work in different studios than in one studio?

Greg: No it's just because, elements of some studios you don't get in the other studios - it's just certain equipment and sound.

Roman: Is there a possibility that you will work again with Simon Efemey or Sank?

Greg: I doubt it, I mean Sank does not even work as a producer anymore, I think he works in a record label now. Simon Efemey? Again I doubt it. You know he is doing some things and we are doing other things...

Roman: I see. Some people say that a producer influences a record in many ways and other people say that when your music changes you change a producer. What is your case? What do you think?

Greg: Well I wouldn't have said 'producer influences'. Obviously you gonna get a different sound with each different producer, but we just tried to get the producer who can capture what we wanna sound like on our new record. We just wanted a producer to come in and capture what we sound like in the rehearsal room, we wanted to do a very live sound on our new record. So we don't really have any import, we just tried to capture what we sound like at the moment of time.

Roman: And the next question will be about the album title 'Believe in Nothing'. I remember that you talked a lot about the album title 'One Second' that it had a certain meaning, that it in a certain way unites all the songs, and when you talked about the album title 'Host' you said that every listener should have their own opinion about that. So what's the case with a new album title?

Nick (having been pushed by Greg and asked to answer the question): Ehhh…(making a long pause and producing the feeling of a very tired man) I'm trying to make a different explanation every time I answer this. Ehh… what can it be today? Ehhh…It doesn't really describe the album. It is a kinda ironic, you. It's so that you can differentiate between the last album and this album. Album titles are always… It's just the way… I don't really believe in anything, you know, so…

Felix: Have you just though of any catchy name or catchy title?

Nick: Oh yeah! I need to come in with a word or any words that I like the sound of it doesn't have to make sense. Someone of the band said 'That's good, quite amusing, let's call it that way'. So it is not a concept album.

Roman: Is there any connection with the first song 'I'm Nothing'?

Nick: No, I was going to call it 'Believe in Nothing' but than that would have been too cliche. So I called it 'I'm Nothing'

Roman: And a major question about the album cover - I was quite shocked by THAT. It's a kind of disgusting…. (Nick and Greg were surprised to hear such epithet and started laughing along with Doll and Felix) What was the idea behind it? (everybody laughs)…you don't see such..

Nick: Horrorshocked! Oh! I can't listen to this music…

Felix: I'll explain - when a customer looks at the album cover most of them have an idea …for example some new fans, new generation of PL fans they look at the cover and say 'Wow, that's interesting'. They see the band's title and think 'May be I'll listen to this record too'.

Nick: We saw the base thing a few months ago and we just liked it so we like closeups of insects. Actually album 'Believe in Nothing' is B.I.N. and it means 'bee' in Swedish. But that's not why we used bees, that's coincident. That's the good answer to the question, but that's not true (laughing). Yeah we could have had five-point star or pentagram or devil's head or monster on the cover like cliche or a God, a crying ram… we just thought it would not be necessary

Roman: A specific question. Who is singing in the beginning of 'Fader'? Whose voice is that?

Greg: That's a collection of samples made up to sound like singers. It's not real singers.

Roman: I remember your drummer Lee Morris singing on one of your previous records. Is he singing now?

Nick (sipping the water): Um, he is singing backing vocals on almost every song, most of the record. His voice sounds similar to mine one.

Roman: And is he singing live?

Nick: Yes.

Felix: Did you have any guest appearing musicians on the record. I mean 'Divided' has orchestra or violins playing?

Greg: Yeah. We had, but I can't remember how many it was, seems like a twelve-fifteen piece orchestra playing on that .. so I can't remember all the names now. It's a woman called Sally Herbert who did the strings for 'Host' as well and it's her kind of orchestra and we asked her to do this one as well. Because all the stuff she did on 'Host' was good so…

Roman: Well let's pass on to touring and playing live. We know that you are going to tour with Sisters of Mercy, is that right?

Nick: Yes

Roman: Are you excited?

Greg and Nick: Well not really, no.
Nick: They just asked us to do it. We used to be fans of them years ago. We don't listen to them today, but... yeah it is something cool to do, you know…

Roman: You played in Moscow a couple of years ago, what are your impressions?
Felix: …about the fans…are they different?

Nick: No, it's everywhere the same. I mean it's amazing when so many people come to the show. Well there was no real difference.

Roman: Are you going to play here this year?

Nick: Hopefully, yeah. Of course we have to sort out some dates but…

Roman: So there are no plans yet?

Nick: No not yet. We have to get a promoter involved at first. I mean we really wanna, we wanna play Saint-Petersburg as well…

Roman: So you haven't played there last time? And haven't visited?

Nick: No, no, because it was, you know flying, flying in, flying out gig, you know. Hopefully we can make it actually as a part of the European tour this time may be…

Roman: The next question will be about the singles. I remember that when you were on Music For Nations somebody from the band said that the band has no say in choosing singles?

Greg: We do have a say but we don't choose them purely because the last one we chose was 'Forever Failure' and it was a commercial suicide. We have no idea what sells, we just make albums that we are thinking good albums and let the record company choose really. I mean if we thought it was a bad choice of single we would say it.

Roman: The first single is 'Mouth' and the second is 'Fader', right?

Greg: Yeah.

Roman: A couple of more questions about live shows and touring. I remember… I visited your gig in Moscow 3 years ago and there was classical music playing before the show. Was your initiative or …?

Nick: It might have been… I can't remember.
Greg: Well it probably was.
Nick: …but I can't remember which music we used.

Roman: Is there any idea behind playing classical music before the show? Do you do it regularly?

Nick: Well we use something that kind of more mellow than what we gonna actually do, so... Yeah we think about it, but I can't remember what it was. It might have been a (long pause - thinking) 'Schindler's List' music goes. It is just something different to do, you know. Every band has a rock disco before the show... and we just didn't wanna do it.

Roman: D'you still listen to rock music nowadays?

Nick: Oh, yeah, lots of it. Felix: So what's your latest acquisition?
Greg: It is mainly songs, you know. I don't really. Well I do have a pile of records, well I'm not into full albums, it is usually a song here and a song there.

Felix: Do you follow all this (addressing to Nick, who is wearing a pink Hed(pe) T-shirt) I see this Hed(pe) and stuff?

Nick (interrupting): Oh this sweater?

Felix: Well I see you have a Hed(pe) T-shirt..

Nick asking Greg: Hed(pe)?!?!? What is that?
Greg: I don't know!

Felix: It's a band and…

Nick (not paying too much attention to Felix and asking Greg) - Is it? Where have I get it from? (to us) I liked the color.

Felix (trying to ask the question)- Do you have any recent bands that you really liked?

Nick (interrupting and still speaking of Hed(pe)) Are they shit? This band?

Felix: I don't know.

Nick: Well 'cause I'll better stop wearing it

Felix: Well they say they are good, new-born stars or something

Nick (again asking Greg) - Where have I get it from?
Greg: You were given it! I don't know!

Felix: Well I'm on one of the Message Boards and a guy from there asked me to ask you the question - Do you still play all this stuff from 'Gothic' and 'Paradise Lost' on your concerts and the other part of the question is - Do you still do it for the sake of the fans only or do you still like it?

Nick: We don't play the songs from 'Gothic'. So that answers the second part as well. Well I can listen to the old track. Yeah! That was relevant then. I can't really sing like that. It wouldn't fit into the set. You know we have stuff from 'Icon', stuff from 'Draconian Times'. All our stuff sounds part of the same thing live and if we played something from the first couple of albums it would have sounded like a different band altogether, you know, playing in the set.

Roman: Let's imagine a situation. A good friend of yours asks you… asks the band to play on a very special occasion, I don't know, on a birthday, wedding, and if he asks to play something like 'Rotting Misery' would you do that?

Nick: If I was drunk enough, yeah! Why not?

Felix: Would you produce the same vocals?

Nick: If I was drunk enough! Well I would have to be pretty drunk to do that! Yeah why not! It is a personal thing, you know. It would be funny.

Roman: Not in front of a huge crowd?

Nick: Well I don't know! You would be probably surprised how many people don't actually know songs like 'Rotting Misery'. You can play a concert to a thousand people and only may be 60 people in there would know that song. So you got to think about everybody and not just a few, you know.

Felix: Some of the musicians say 'we don't have our early records, we just... well we don't hate them, but... we just don't have them.' Do you have all you CDs and stuff?

Greg: Oh yeah, everything on vinyl on test pressing, everything.

Felix: Is it like a history for you?

Nick (smiling): It is just a cupboard, I don't know how wide, but it's just there, you know…

Roman: I have one more question about your old days. I know about the 'Live Death' video and I didn't find it on you home page. Is it deleted?

Greg: It wasn't an official thing really anyway.
Nick: Completely. It is deleted, yeah. Thanks God for that (smiling).

Roman: Who released it? Peaceville?

Nick: No, ……

Felix: someone…

Nick: yeah, someone. Some twat. I mean it is fucking awful anyway, you don't wanna see it. Rubbish. (Everybody laughs…) We've been together for about two months when it was released. It's the worst live video you could ever see. It's worth seeing actually because it is so bad, you know.
Greg; It is amusing!
Nick: It is funny. That's all it is. And yes it was deleted

Roman: I was checking your official web page like a couple of days ago and I saw a single I have never heard of before - it is 'True Belief '97'. Why was it released only in France?

Greg and Nick: Good question!

Felix: What was the intention of re-recording 'True Belief'?

Nick: The French label just asked us to do it. Some reason I think they thought we would turn into some kind of Backstreet Boys Top 10 smash hit. It didn't. It doesn't even sound like different (being compared to the original). It's worth getting, it's the collectors' sort of things, I don't know what was the intention behind it. There are some strange ideas sometimes...

Roman: Why did you choose to cove the Smiths? What is so particular about this band that made you cover it?

Nick: They are just good band. I just like them. You've got to grow to a certain point of age to appreciate them. But they had some great songs. We just liked the songs and that's why we did it.

Felix: Do you have any idea or do you have contacts, do you know something about Russian fan-club? I mean I think there is one, but…

Nick: Ah! Some people going to our Message Board they've a Russian name. No I don't personally have any contact with Russian people. No, not yet, but I've met some friends on this trip, so, you know, we'll see.

Roman: So do you check your Message Boards on your official site?

Nick: I'm going there every night to see who's been slagging us off, you know. It is quite funny.

Roman: How do you react when people say something like 'they now sound very close to Depeche Mode'?

Nick: I hate it! I'm kind of really tired of hearing it. It makes me feel like leaving the business, to be honest.

Felix: What is the question you hate most of all?

Nick: 'Do you think yourself like Depeche Mode?'

Felix: We were afraid to ask you that...

Nick: I mean, the new album was written especially that there was absolutely NOTHING that sounds like Depeche Mode.

Roman: After the release of 'One Second' I remember somebody from the band said in an interview that 'Draconian Times' was 'playing safe' and 'One Second' was something that you really liked at the moment, and after the release of 'Host' you said that half of 'One Second' was playing safe and 'Host' was what you liked at the moment.

Greg: I don't think it was playing safe. I think it is just we carried on in a certain direction from 'Icon', and we toured 'Icon', and when we toured 'Icon' on the road we wrote 'Draconian Times'. So there was no gap - it is just straight through! And the same thing happened with the half of 'One Second', we just carried on. But I think we just felt that we've done everything we could with that style of music. You know if we had carried on doing the stuff that we were doing on 'Draconian Times' it would have been just boring, just doing the same thing over and over and over again. So we just wanted to try something different. It wasn't really playing safe.

Roman: I've already heard some people saying that 'Believe in Nothing' is a step back. Every album differs from the previous one and this one is a kind of mix between 'Host' and 'One Second'.

Nick: I don't think it's a step back. It is a mixture of the best bits from the last three albums, may be.
Greg: You will get that the same band and the next album, it is just the same people doing it. So obviously you gonna have some similarity to older albums 'cause we are the same band, you know. Classic Paradise Lost if you know what I mean, this album is very… it sounds very much just like noone else sounds. I think there are many elements that define us.

Felix: Do you have intentions to so-to-say win back the old fans, who probably left you after the 'Host'?

Nick: I don't think people would be that fickle, to be honest, I mean. Once people go, they usually go…I mean, we tried something with 'Host' and I still think 'Host' is great and some people didn't understand it. And that's fine. I think if this album is successful people will be back like those who did with 'Gothic'. And understand it that it is more of a cult album like 'Gothic' was.

Felix: So if we speak for example about Metallica, after the release of 'Load' many fans just say 'we give up this band …they don't play good music anymore' and Lars Ulrich, he said 'it is our private matter and we just write music that we like, and it is your own business if you like it or not'. What do you think of it? When you write music do you think what fans would say or what you like?

Nick: Well, it's something out there. You can't really write music for the people, because if you wrote it just for the people, they might go as well and write it. The whole reason of people listening to different bands is that they wanna hear someone else's music. The reasons they listen to our band is that they wanna hear what we are doing. So we do it for ourselves.

Felix: Well it is understandable that you can never produce 'Icon' after 'Icon' after 'Icon'….

Roman: Who is going to play keyboards live?

Greg (smiling): A good question..
Nick: We'll get somebody off the street.
Greg: The guy that played on the last tour is now sort of teaching at a music college and we have to get someone else, but we haven't got anyone yet.

Roman: And who played on the record?

Greg: Me.

Roman (addressing to Greg): I remember you broke your arm on the last tour. How is it now?

Greg: It's getting worse…(smiling) It's just a tendency there it was a broken arm, there it was a broken shoulder, next would be a broken spine. No, it is fine. I mean it was OK again in three weeks.

Roman: I remember people from magazines saying that there is a possibility that Greg would never be able to play guitar again.

Greg: No. When I was placed into the hospital they said if I didn't sort of rest it, it would be a fault. Now it is ok.

Felix: How do you write the music, the songs? How does the whole process go?

Nick: I think I have both of these things…Well Greg writes the music and then I think of a melody and write the lyrics. And then arrange it, sort it together. It is like 'it sounds alright' and then we produce it to the band.

Roman: The next question for Nick. You worked together with Liv Kristin from Theatre of Tragedy on her solo album. How did that collaboration appear?

Nick: I was in her hometown and she was doing all that sort of things. So when I was in her town she asked me to do this. Well I said 'OK'. I did the song. That's it.

Roman: Did you hear the record?

Nick: I haven't even listened to the whole album. I don't even think I have the album. The song is great, really.

Roman: There is a tribute to Paradise Lost out. And I never heard that Paradise Lost participated in any tribute record. Why is that? Were you never invited?

Nick: No. Well we did the Venom tribute. Is (the Paradise Lost tribute) a French one?

Felix: Yeah.

Nick: I have listened to it. There are some pretty interesting evaluations, yeah. So it is pretty good.

Felix: Still there is a bleak raw emotion in your music. When you entered the studio to record 'Believe in Nothing' did you have the same emotions that you used to have 10 years ago, for example?

Nick: We usually just got drunk 10 years ago. We just don't get drunk now. We do it all the rest of the time but not in the studio. We all know what we have to do, we don't mess around. 10 years ago we didn't know what we were doing. So emotion… Well I don't think there is any emotion - we know we've just got to do something that would cost us very expensive.
Greg: We just want something to sound. We are very specific about that. There is not really any emotions, just keeping in control, you know.

Felix: Same feeling probably?

Greg: Yeah, I mean it's… we still get excited by doing it and …hearing a song come together in studio.

Roman: I have some questions about lyrics. The song that interests me at most is 'Divided'. What's it about? 'Together we stand divided we fall' I understand it is sort of an allusion…

Nick: Well this is basically about how humans interact within, what makes somebody have nothing in common with somebody else. It is not necessarily a male/female thing. You know it is more the relationships in general.

Roman: And another question is about "No Reason'.

Nick: This is ehhh…..someone….who's….potentially seeking……ehh.. suicide mission. They are not trying to kill themselves but not really, because they just want it potentially. It is some kind of common thing.

Roman: 'Searching for reason to live', right?

Nick: Ah-a

Roman: What is your reason to live?

Nick: I got a kid now. So that's a good enough reason for now until she is old enough…

Roman: I remember Dani from Cradle of Filth saying that people cannot appreciate their music in full if they are not English. Would you say that about Paradise Lost? (interrupted by burst of laughter from Doll and Greg)

Greg: He probably wishes he never said that now. I bet next time you talked to him he would backpedal.

Roman: Many Russian magazines published that and said like 'we don't understand that!' So you believe people can understand…

Greg (smiling): He can't really have said that, it's so funny.

Roman: So you believe people can understand your music without knowing the language?

Nick: Of course. Well we used to have a band called Dead Can Dance and some of the songs out there - she didn't sing any lyrics, she made up words. And it still sounds great, you know. So when we do the press conference this afternoon I'll say that! Russian people cannot understand our music. It is like suicide. I don't want to sell any albums.

Felix: May be you will consider this question to be stupid, but (addressing to Nick) when you cut your hair… what made you do it? You became older and all this stuff? Do you regret it? (having seen Nick grinning) Well 'cause many people say when you are in a heavy metal band you should have long hair and then when you cut it is like …eh… again with Metallica - when they did it - everyone said 'Wow! They gave up the idea'. Or is it just difficult for you to have them?

Nick: In our part of the world heavy metal is not the same, you know it's not like it used to be. There is no such image like the old image all this like long hair, leather jackets. It really doesn't exist in England anymore. It is stupid to say 'you can't be metal without long hair'. You stop being metal when you stop wearing spandex clothes and the other stuff. I mean like, I had long hair for 15 years.

Felix: And you probably got tired of it?

Nick: It's boring. You will cut your hair (addressing to Felix, who has long hair). Yeah, eventually you know. And then again once you cut it you can't grow it again 'cause you look, you know, I once tried to grow back mine, but it looked stupid. I think you gonna cut it when you start tying it back all the time.

Roman: Are you still in contact with you former drummer?

Nick: Yeah-yeah, we see him.

Roman: What is he doing now?

Nick: He works at MTV in London, and he is OK.

Roman: So he doesn't play anymore?

Nick: If he were still playing drums he would still be in the band. He kind of left the band because he stopped playing.

Roman: As far as I understand there have been almost no line-up changes in the band? How do you manage to stay together?

Nick: We all were friends before we started the band.
Greg: Bad and the Devil… you know what I mean…

Felix: So 'Believe in Nothing'. What videos will there be shot?

Nick: We've already on the video for 'Mouth', for 'Fader'

Felix: So for the singles stuff?

Nick: Yeah, yeah. So check them out. They were showed on MTV yesterday. Did you see the MTV yesterday?

Felix: No. You've been to Russian MTV?

Nick: Yeah, it was like a pop show. It was quite funny.
Greg: The presenter there said 'It was the weirdest day-time show we have ever done', 'cause we were playing songs like Aphex Twin, A Perfect Circle and things like that. They said 'We usually have things like Backstreet Boys'.

Roman: That's the reason we watch MTV very seldom.
Felix: The question that has struck me now. So is the Paradise still Lost for you or you have already found it? (seeing both Greg and Nick grinning continues) Well again it could sound a bit stupid for you but still?

Greg: We all were having a good time doing this and haven't really thought of that!
Nick: At the end for the day it is entertainment.
Greg: It is escapism. It should not be taken too literally. I mean you can seriously be a fan of the music but it is not gonna change your life. It is a soundtrack of your life, but it is not gonna change it.

Felix: So when you don't play music, what do you do? Do you earn money only by playing music or do you do something else?

Nick (laughing): I sell my arse on the street. So I have a strange walk. No, no, no, we are professional musicians but now we like to play video games, computers - things that teenage guys do, all the same things. We don't go skateboarding, we do everything else.

Roman: Are you satisfied working with EMI?

Nick: So far yeah. I mean it's …well we had no problems seeing around by now. A lot of bands seem to slag off their record label. And we haven't yet any reasons to do that, so far so good, we are fine.

Roman: Do they try to get involved in the recording process?

Nick: No, I mean if they really didn't like something they would say it. You know any criticism we've had from the label someone would agree with anyway. If they come up and tell anything we don't agree with, so it's been ours, there is no pressure from them at all. What the fuck is that?!?!? (everybody now pays attention to a beeping sound in the room) There is no pressure from them to change or anything.

Roman: Was that the label's idea to go for a promo tour?

Nick: Well, yeah. I know it's not kinda norm for Moscow, but I think we have done a lot of this kind, we do it since we started the band. We always do it.

Roman: Actually you are the first band to come to Moscow on a promo tour.

Nick: Yeah. But I think a lot of people probably will start doing that. They will just…

Roman: Do you believe Russia is a growing for Paradise Lost?

Nick: It is a growing market for everything!

Felix: And what about piracy?

Nick: Well that was what I mean. Well the piracy is always gonna affect bands.

Felix: And what do you think then about this now trendy thing Napster? And frankly speaking I've seen your new album there already.

Nick: Yeah-yeah, I know. Well it is …eh …ok, you know, but…

Felix: Are you strictly against it?

Nick: Well I think it's a good idea, but it's not regulated properly. I mean, bands like ourselves will just disappear, because we can't afford to make music people don't buy. So when all music is vanished, blame Napster! Lars Ulrich, he is, the principles of what he was doing were correct. But it is - when music is gone it'll be Napster's fault! If it'll be Madonna and Elton John, U2 and it'll be it. You should better buy albums. But albums are very expensive, they are too expensive. But if the Napster thing brought down the prices of albums that's a good thing. But Napster has extended, this is gonna kill the bands like ourselves. So enjoy if you got it!

Roman: Well it is really a great pleasure to see you in Moscow again.

Nick: That's great, yeah!

Roman: And how do you like the city?

Nick (glancing outside the window, seeing the pipes, railway station etc.): I like it, well, I mean we always going on trips and we always get too drunk all the time, so..

Felix: Still…?

Nick: … and we always feel like shit 24 hours a day! Yeah and we always get too excited and we get drunk and then it's like we feel like shit again and then we get drunker even again and again. Yeah, it's a nice city, reminds me of Manhattan and the center is like New York. Very similar.

Roman: Another tricky question. I remember that after your last visit to Moscow some Russian magazines published articles saying that you were not particularly friendly to reporters. Like refusing to be photographed…

Greg: We don't like to be photographed! Only because it is really kinda boring.
Nick: They are always asking 'Why aren't you smiling?' Well there is nothing to smile about. It is very boring. You are standing there and…
Greg: We are photographed, it's quick, but, you know all this stuff: cameras don't work, you hear all these 'Hurry up! Come on!' and stuff. I'm not into that at all.
Nick: People would always go - 'Do something crazy!' Like what? What is crazy?

Felix: So what do you think about interviews? Do you think it's a usual procedure you have to go through or it is really interesting for you?

Greg: I think Russian journalists are far more intelligent than any of the journalists in the world, to be honest. 'Cause the questions are usually not so intelligent.

Roman: Like 'what is the future of heavy metal'?

Greg: Yeah.

Roman: Is there any country you have not played and you would like to play?

Greg: I think we've played everywhere. We haven't played in China or Africa, Iceland, Greenland, Antarctica, Poland. I've been to Poland, haven't I?

Roman: Another question about your past days. You said once you in the early days played with the bands like Extreme Noise Terror? Are you still in contact with them?

Greg: No. Napalm Death we see occasionally.

Roman: Do they say something about your current music?

Nick: They probably haven't even heard it. We have kinda friendship, we don't need to listen to each other's music, it's not even important.

Roman: What is your favorite opening band? Any good remembrances?

Nick: Just the one that doesn't eat all the food! Well (trying to recall the name) C…C…Ceamon was good. It is a Norwegian band. Seigmen, Seigmen, well it is Norwegian. They are now called Zeromancer. (Roman starts nodding meaning he knows the band.)

Felix: So we have time regulations and we have to wind it up.
Metalkings.ru: Thank you very much. It was rally a pleasure.

Nick and Greg: Good bye. See you.

Many thanks to Olga Smirnova of Gala Records and Alex Lord of Progulka.com for helping us oprganize the interview.